It is finally here, the computer build you have (and possibly the whole world) been waiting for. The Linus Tech Tips and Linus Torvalds Collab PC build! Linus Torvalds talks through Linux development, parts selection, and even gives a glimpse into some cool projects he works on in his spare time. This project was made with a lot of hard work from our team and of course Linus Torvalds generous time.
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA
**https://300.ya.ru/v_K8YBvmwI
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00:00:00 Введение
- Идеального ПК с Linux не существует, но можно создать ПК для создателя Linux.
- Упоминание о коллаборации с Линусом Торвальдсом.
00:01:13 Взаимодействие с Линусом
- Линус Торвальдс в студии, обсуждение его вклада в технологии.
- Шутки о фанатизме и подписании документа.
00:02:04 Реклама
- Анонс продаж в «чёрную пятницу» на сайте lttstore.com.
- Предложения по товарам и условиям доставки.
00:02:41 Обсуждение автобиографии
- Линус Торвальдс делится впечатлениями от своей автобиографии.
- Роль Дэвида Даймонда в написании книги.
00:06:12 Технические детали ПК
- Описание процессора AMD Threadripper с 24 ядрами и 48 потоками.
- Требования к производительности для компиляции ядра Linux.
00:07:47 Выбор материнской платы
- Важность надёжности и поддержки Linux для материнской платы.
- Необходимость ECC-памяти для стабильности системы.
00:08:44 Значение ECC-памяти
- Объяснение важности ECC-памяти для долговечности системы.
- Проблемы с памятью без ECC и их последствия.
00:10:45 Маркетинговые заявления
- Критика маркетинговых заявлений о встроенном ECC в DDR.
- Подчёркивание необходимости сквозного ECC для надёжности.
00:11:10 Начало передачи и обсуждение технологий
- Автор выражает недовольство голосовыми сообщениями и звонками через Zoom.
- Упоминает, что давно не собирал компьютеры.
- Начинает передачу «Покажи и расскажи», демонстрируя самодельную педаль гитарных эффектов.
00:11:58 Демонстрация самодельной педали
- Описывает особенности педали: кнопка, циферблат, питание.
- Признаёт, что педаль плохая, но ему нравится её создавать.
- Говорит, что сам паяёт детали.
00:13:18 Обсуждение хранения данных
- Объясняет свой подход к хранению данных: загружает их в интернет.
- Отмечает, что никто не скачивает ISO-версии Linux.
00:15:09 Гордость за Linux и Git
- Гордится Linux, признавая, что сделал мало для Git.
- Отмечает, что Git — это продукт работы других людей.
- Считает, что Linux — его главное достижение.
00:16:31 Отношение к аппаратному обеспечению
- Предпочитает работать с аппаратным обеспечением, а не с базами данных.
- Считает создание операционной системы необходимым для своих целей.
00:17:32 Обсуждение водяного охлаждения
- Выражает предпочтение воздушному охлаждению из-за надёжности и отсутствия раздражающего звука.
- Обсуждает преимущества водяного охлаждения, но отмечает возможные проблемы с надёжностью.
00:20:07 Рабочий процесс и стресс
- Рассказывает о предсказуемом рабочем процессе, который не вызывает стресса.
- Признаёт, что главным источником стресса для него являются люди.
- Подчёркивает, что технические проблемы можно исправить.
00:21:16 Размышления о разработке Linux
- Элайджа размышляет о том, что бы он сделал иначе, если бы начал разработку Linux заново.
- Первый ответ: он бы никогда не взялся за это дело, осознав сложность задачи.
- Второй ответ: он бы ничего не изменил, потому что всё сработало хорошо и было приятным опытом.
00:22:52 Влияние Linux на бизнес
- Элайджа гордится тем, что его проекты привели к созданию компаний стоимостью в миллиарды долларов.
- Он считает это подтверждением значимости своих усилий.
00:23:51 Linux и Microsoft
- Обсуждается, что Microsoft зарабатывает больше на облачных сервисах, чем на Windows, и большая часть облачных вычислений компании работает под управлением Linux.
- Подчёркивается, что соперничество между Linux и Windows прошло.
00:24:42 Творческие проекты
- Упоминается создание игр подростком, увлекающимся компьютерами.
- Обсуждаются различные виды компетентности.
00:26:06 Открытый исходный код и YouTube
- Элайджа ценит, как другие люди используют знания из открытого исходного кода для создания новых продуктов.
- YouTube рассматривается как источник знаний.
00:27:07 Моменты усталости в разработке Linux
- Элайджа признаёт, что у него были моменты усталости, но он всегда возвращался к работе.
- Он не хочет быть тем, кто цепляется за проект, и готов отойти в сторону, если появится кто-то лучше.
00:28:43 Домашние животные
- Элайджа делится опытом содержания крыс и кошек, отмечая их общительность и привязанность.
- Упоминается, что крысы живут недолго, что разбивает сердце его дочери.
00:30:07 Источники питания
- Обсуждаются важность надёжности и тишины источников питания.
- Подчёркивается важность эффективности вентиляторов.
00:31:26 Будущее Linux после смерти Элайджи
- Задаётся вопрос о будущем Linux в случае смерти Элайджи.
- Элайджа отмечает, что у проекта здоровое сообщество, которое продолжит развитие.
- Релиз Linux выпускается каждые девять месяцев, и в каждом выпуске участвует тысяча человек.
00:32:49 Репутация и вступление
- Обсуждение возможного негативного влияния на репутацию.
- Упоминание о впечатляющем вступлении с мечами.
- Критика отсутствия хорошего вкуса в интернете.
00:33:08 Искусственный интеллект и кодирование
- Размышления о генеративном искусственном интеллекте как о «мыльном пузыре» и компьютерной революции.
- Влияние ИИ на выполнение квалифицированных работ.
- Обсуждение модели ИИ, обучаемой работе реальных людей.
00:33:59 Кража работ и программирование
- Критика ИИ за кражу работ в художественном сообществе.
- Принятие реальности использования ИИ в программировании.
- ИИ как инструмент для повышения продуктивности программистов.
00:34:57 Рынок и маркетинг ИИ
- Сомнения в здоровости рыночного маркетинга ИИ.
- Предположение о скором крахе рынка.
00:35:34 NVIDIA и ИИ
- Изменение отношения к NVIDIA благодаря ИИ.
- Сравнение с другими видеокартами, такими как Radeon.
00:36:23 Код и Linux
- Уменьшение вклада автора в ядро Linux.
- Роль других разработчиков в создании кода.
- Критика измерения производительности по количеству строк кода.
00:38:39 Путешествия и работа
- Неприятности от частых путешествий.
- Предпочтение больших городов, кроме Токио.
- Сравнение работы с Linux с необычными событиями.
00:42:00 Личные проблемы с Linux
- Случайное удаление графического интерфейса.
- Сложности с установкой Steam.
00:43:07 Ожидания и новаторство
- Низкие ожидания от встречи.
- Восприятие автора как новаторского ютубера.
- Влияние автора на мир.
00:44:12 Проблемы с устройством и оперативная память
- Устройство издавало странный звук, который оказался из-за выпавшего вентилятора.
- После исправления проблемы на экране появилось 64 ГБ оперативной памяти.
- Рекомендация попробовать включить профиль XMP.
00:45:10 Обсуждение игр
- Упоминание игры «Горизонт: Zero Dawn» и её совместимости с Linux.
00:45:50 Выбор дистрибутива Linux
- Обсуждение преимуществ Fedora перед Ubuntu: тесная связь с разработчиками ядра и упрощённая работа.
- Критика Ubuntu за ограничения в обновлении ядра.
00:46:55 Фрагментация Linux
- Фрагментация Linux как недостаток для разработчиков коммерческого ПО.
- Желание основных дистрибутивов иметь более унифицированный дистрибутив.
00:49:08 Технические советы
- Отказ от предоставления технических советов по электронной почте.
- Подход к приватности: «чем больше я могу отравить этот колодец, тем лучше для меня».
00:51:29 Массовое признание Linux
- Важность пользователей для проекта Linux.
- Отсутствие массового признания не делает проект бессмысленным.
00:52:30 Реклама
- Реклама бизнес-приложения ODU.
00:53:36 Заключение
- Благодарность зрителям и команде.
- Призыв к оставлению комментариев.
В этом видео
Intro
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Arguably, there can be no perfect Linux PC. But what we can build is the perfect
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Linux PC for the creator of Linux, who
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there can be only one. [screaming]
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[groaning] Or hear me out, you guys could just build a PC together.
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Oh. Oh, okay. That could work. That could work. For the folks too young to catch the Highlander reference, the
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joke is that we are both Lionus and this can only end with one of us losing our heads. My mind is blown. So maybe that
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counts. Guys, when I shot my shot asking the original tech Lionus to come and do a collab with us, I had no idea what
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he’d say. I mean, he’s kind of a big deal, known for minor contributions to modern technology like Git and the Linux
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kernel, but he’s here, the granddaddy of the operating systems that power
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everything from the Android phone in your hand to data centers around the world to more recently your new gaming
1:04
PC. All thanks to the incredible work of open source developers and corporate sponsors like Valve. And I get to build
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a computer with them and ask him some of your questions. And you think I’m the awkward one. Sorry. Look, I know that fangirling does
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make you a little bit uncomfortable. Yes. But you are here right now in my studio
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and this is so cool. So, I’ll tell you what. If you could just quickly sign my copy of this and then I’ll settle down.
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I promise. Okay. How cool is this, you guys?
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He made it out to fake Lionus from the real one. This is officially
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more valuable to me than this message from our sponsor. [laughter]
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What a segway is the one. It’s got the abs you need
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from those other guys.
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You haven’t written anything more recent autobiographically, so I went with this and the Wikipedia page. So that’s about
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Yeah. No, that’s fine. I mean, this was literally what we talked about earlier that I’ll do anything once, like,
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right, come here. [laughter] Uh, I really enjoyed it. Okay. No, I enjoyed the writing part. I
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do want to point out the David Diamond part. I I actually wanted him to have the same font size as my name, but
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Oh, really? the publisher said no. They were right. It was very much a collab. He made that very clear in the parts
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that the italicized parts that are kind of his version of the telling of the story. But I really enjoyed this and uh
Autobiography
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I’m looking forward to hopefully asking you questions that are not thoroughly covered by your own autobiographical
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works but from 25 years ago. I was going to ask you that is one of my questions is do you feel as detached
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from what you wrote then as I might be from something that I wrote when I was 19? I actually don’t remember what I wrote.
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Oh, okay. So then you might have forgotten the meaning of life for instance. Oh yeah, because that’s in there. That’s in there. Yeah. It’s entertainment by the way
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and uh and and sex is a perfect example. It started for survival
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and then it became for uh society and then also entertainment. Say yeah the entertainment part.
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No, you were quite explicit in both meanings. Okay. Anything once. Anything once, right?
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We’re not done yet. So you still have to do more. [laughter]
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When you say lionus, just to clarify, say a false linus or something.
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Fake liners. Yeah. Yeah, today I can live with that. Now, you did an interview with ZDNet a number of
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years back about your daily driver computer which you built yourself and we actually
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replicated that build. What did you think of our video? Oh, the one I never saw. Yeah.
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Uh yeah, sorry. I knew that was going to happen. And so the next thing I was going to ask you is what about this video? Are you going to
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watch this video? I probably won’t because I will be feeling way too self-conscious to to actually watch it,
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but I might have to just because I will probably get emailed comments and then I will have to wonder about the comments.
Linus Builds a PC
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And I love that comments to you are email. It’s the only media I use. Yeah. I don’t do I don’t do the whole social media
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thing. So, it’s text for my family or email for everybody else.
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Right. So, I can text you. You actually can text me now. Yeah, that’s actually pretty cool. So, you
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know what? Even though I am not one of the couple of dozen Torvoldses on the planet, right?
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I also have a madeup last name. So, my mom broke from her family,
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changed her name, and then got my dad to agree to use her name for me. Okay. Okay. So, I’m also Lionus with
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also a last name with no genealogy whatsoever attached to it, which I thought was a weird thing for us to have
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in common. Strange. Yeah. I mean, there’s there’s literally maybe 20 Torbtes in the whole world because yeah, my grandfather made
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that name up for very similar reasons. This is so much fun. You are actually
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doing amazing. It’s nothing like that night that you barely slept before your first major speaking engagement,
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right? You really did read the book. Of course. Good on you. What? You think I would fake it?
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I don’t know. Shame. Shame. Shame on people who collaborate with
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people and don’t actually read their book ahead of time. Well, I didn’t watch your videos, so
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that’s fine. [laughter] I am the beta linest today, so I fully
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accept that that’s going to be what happens. Um, what else is going to happen is we are actually going to build a computer at some point here. And if
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you watched our last video, it’s fine you didn’t, but if you have your computer, then this may be familiar to
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you. We are starting with an AMD Thread Ripper. This time, a 9960X. This is a 24 core 48thread CPU that I
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imagine is going to absolutely rip it up for writing emails. It’s not the only thing I do, but I do spend a lot of time actually reading
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emails more than writing them because you can fit so much email in this bad
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boy. But of course you do have some high performance demanding needs like say for
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example yeah I do compile the kernel a lot. So uh it’s part of my test requirements
CPU: What Does he Need it For
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that when I merge other people’s code because I don’t code myself very much anymore. One of the things I do between
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every single merge is compile the whole kernel with every module I can. And
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that’s where you want something fairly powerful. And I mean, I’m sure, you know, Nvidia is probably working on a
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way to make code compilation GPU accelerated, but is CPU still the way to go? Yeah. And I can use as many cores as
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they can give me. Why did we cheap out on him? Oh, because I also I actually I mean, people ask me what [music] I want and I
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was like, I don’t want the crazy high-end because I want it to be quiet and reliable and not like
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insane in any particular direction. So, you know what? We actually take a very similar approach with our editing
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workstations. The, you know, the writers or whatever, they can play around with the latest generation stuff. They’re
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always one step down because I just want it to work. [laughter] I think I’ve never I’ve
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always wanted to have something that just is reliable. And that’s to me, I mean, that comes first. It needs to be
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something I can trust and work with. And then within that envelope, it needs to
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perform well and not be crazy bleeding edge. And he’s letting me build it.
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Yeah, that may be. Let’s see. I’m having way too much fun today. This is like the best day I’ve had in the office in
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like a very long time. Seriously. Okay, I’m sorry. I said I would stop. I’m I’m Okay, I’m done. I’m done. Choosing a
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motherboard for Linux is pretty straightforward. You want all of the usual things you want out of a motherboard. nice robust cooling, good
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power delivery, all the IO that you want, but of course you want to make sure that all of the onboard components
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are supported by Linux. One of the big things that we looked for in a platform for you was support for ECC memory as
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well. Y can you talk a little bit about why that’s so important? I don’t understand
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why people don’t require ECC in their machines because being able to trust your machine is like the number one
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thing and without ECC your memory will go bad. It’s not a question of when it’s
Motherboard: Why is ECC Important to you
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or it is a question of when. I mean it just might take a few years. So when I built the machine, you apparently shot a
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video around. I could not get ECC and I said whatever I’ll I’ll get reasonable
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RAM and uh it worked fine. It worked fine for a couple of years and then two
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years goes by and uh I start seeing oopses. I start seeing segmentation
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violations. I’m obviously doing this on a modern Linux kernel that is being
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developed right now. And my first reaction is, «Oh no, we have a bug.» And I spent days
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on trying to figure out what the bug was until I just realized, no, it wasn’t a
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bug at all. It was my machine was not reliable. So for you, this is not a question of,
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you know, I have to reboot my system because my game crashed. Correct. This is a question of I am working on
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software that millions of people around the world rely on. I need to know,
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right? I I absolutely need to trust my machine. And and I mean, it’s a big thing. And I’m
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convinced that all the jokes about how unstable Windows is and blue screening,
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I guess it’s not a blue screen anymore. A big percentage of those were not actually software bugs. A big percentage
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of those are hardware being not reliable. And uh I mean in the gaming
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community you also do overclocking so you get extra unreliability from that. You will find articles that talk about
10:04
how DDR has ECC built in. But no no it doesn’t. It really does not. Some of them have
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ECC on the chips themselves but then if something goes wrong between the DIM and
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the CPU you will never know. So you need to have endtoend ECC. I actually think
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that’s one of the more egregious marketing claims of our current era
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here. I I I find that so irritating. It’s a thing with me. I I do not touch machines
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that don’t have ECC. Well, this one does. Thanks, Kingston, for sending this over. I know you hate
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voicemail. Yeah, that’s another thing that we can bond over. I hate
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Well, I don’t hate voicemail as much as I hate Zoom calls and things like that. I I would not have gone through CO if I
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had to like Zoom call every day like some people I know because I would have
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I mean there’s no way. Maybe don’t include that part. But [laughter] see, I must have done this, but I don’t
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remember. Oh, wait. Why am I building your computer? You know how to build computers. I don’t build computers anymore.
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Literally, it’s 5 years since I built my last one. If you want me to build something, I actually This is what I
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built. I brought it for you. We’re getting show and tell. We’re getting show and tell. This I
Linus T Hates Zoom Calls
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built. Hold on. Okay, let me try and figure it out. Let me try and figure it out. Hold on. Okay, it has a button. It [music] has a dial. It has power.
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Oh, it’s a guitar effects pedal. It’s a bad one, don’t get me wrong. It’s a horribly, horribly bad one. You’d never
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use this in real life, right? But I enjoy designing these things. And I actually solder these small pieces
Linus T Side Projects
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myself. I built this at home. Oh, these do help you see better. But do
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these make me look smarter? I can’t tell them apart. Do I look like the smart Linus now? No. [laughter]
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Now, tell me this. [music] Is there footage of you using this and showing what it sounds like? Oh, hell no. That’s never going to
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happen. Uh I I don’t actually play guitar. Oh, there you have it. Soon to be
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available uh from uh Lennis Torvald’s guitar. This is accessories.com. This is like the LT
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store except bad quality. Oh, did we get him some stuff? Does he have a care package? By the way, there’s
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no pressure to take any of the stuff from the store. If you don’t like it, you just say you don’t like it and we’ll work hard. We’ll make something better
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for you later. Um, and this is not an endorsement in any way. It’s just a gift. He doesn’t have to say anything
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nice. In fact, you don’t even have to look at it right now. No, it looks like a perfectly chrome bag.
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Now, that is a reference. That’s an endorsement. That is a reference that I personally appreciate
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very much. The next thing we’re going to need is some storage. Last time around, you went with a giant 4 TBTE storage
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drive and ended up using like few hundred megs out of it. Yeah.
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So, I wanted to ask, okay, why is that? Do you have like a a NAS that you use
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for archival storage or what’s your what’s your data storage approach? Right. No, my data storage approach is I
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upload it on the internet and if it’s worth saving, somebody else will save it for me.
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Clearly, you specifically requested that we have a reference to either Highlander or Mad Max in the intro. So, you must
Storage: How Much Storage does Linus Need
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enjoy films, but you don’t back up anything yourself. No. No. And I mean, everybody does video
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streaming these days. I mean, of course, nobody does. Nobody downloads Linux ISOs. I mean I
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mean Linux I mean even a Linux ISO is whatever a few hundred megs.
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Um how many of those do you have on your computer right now? Well, let me depending on the way you
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mean it. [laughter] So Linux ISOs is a slang for pirated
13:52
media. Oh, see I am so naive in some ways. I
13:58
tried to get him to do the excuse me, I’d like to interject for a moment, but he didn’t he didn’t get the reference or
14:04
didn’t think it was funny or something. I tried you guys. [laughter] If you’ve enjoyed what you’ve seen so
14:10
far, we have a ton of exclusives over on Flowplane, including some behind the scenes and even some staff hanging out
14:15
with Linus to ask him some questions. Go check it out at lmg.gg/flowplane. I mean, I’d like to interject for a
14:22
moment, though. Our community submitted some questions and you were just talking both about Linux and Git and they want
14:28
to know out of your two most famous brainchildren which one are you most proud of? Oh, Linux by far. I don’t
14:35
think people understand how little I did for Git. I did just the basic initial
14:41
design and hey, I’m proud of that. I I think uh git does
14:46
things really well and the design is good and so much better than anything
14:51
that came before it only a little bit proud of There’s there is pride there don’t get me wrong but at
14:57
the same time I worked on git for 6 months and the moment I found somebody
Git or Linux? What are you more proud of?
15:02
who I felt could take it over I threw it over the fence and said you go right and
15:10
Juno has done a admirable job and he’s been working on it for 20 years I didn’t
15:16
work on it for 20 years to me it was something I needed for Linux and [music] Linux is is my child
15:23
so that’s like having a second child so that you could enhance your first child.
15:29
I worry about your children with spare parts maybe. [laughter] Then why did you have three Lionus?
15:38
Literally I I started get I did never I never wanted to do source control management. I felt it was almost as
15:44
boring as databases. I never want to do databases. I mean in the same way I
15:50
don’t think you ever really wanted to make an operating system though did you? No. Operating systems are really
15:55
interesting. I all my computing life I’ve done things close to hardware. [music] I’m not a hardware person per se
16:03
but I love exploring the interface between software and hardware. And I
16:08
mean when I started that’s the only way you could do things. I mean you you got a home PC in in ‘ 81 or whatever it was
16:15
my first one. And there were no abstraction layers. If you wrote
16:21
anything, you wrote it to the hardware. You made it make sounds. You made it print stuff to the screen.
16:28
There is a line in here where you say that if someone else had done it right, you wouldn’t have felt the need to
16:34
create Linux. Do you still feel that way? Yes. Yes. I I mean, I’m perfectly happy
16:39
being lazy, and if somebody else does some [music] something better than than I, why would I try to recreate that? I I
16:47
needed an operating system and that’s why I started doing it. But if if it hadn’t been an operating system, it
16:52
would probably have been something else close to hardware. Right. Speaking of hardware, maybe we should build a computer here for a
16:58
second. Um Oh, our cooler. You’ve talked about this very briefly already, but to
17:05
you and this is another Linux thing in common.
17:11
I love using computers. I hate hearing them. Oh, yeah. So, we got you an NHU12S
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TR5- SP6. What a catchy name. I know. They really have nailed down the
17:25
engineering way of naming things. These guys are pure engineering all day, every
17:30
day. This may be very similar to what I have on my Yep, that looks kind of similar. I
Cooler: Why Noctua?
17:37
mean I mean it’s a heat sink. They all look the same. It’s a perfectly chromulent wheel. We didn’t feel the need to uh reinvent it.
17:44
While I’m installing this, you have said no, never with regards to water cooling.
17:51
I mean, I that sounds stronger than I would have gone. [music] I’m not interested in water cooling mainly
17:56
because I feel it has the potential to be both less reliable than regular air
18:05
cooling [music] and uh people have issues with it gurgling which I find to
18:11
be a more annoying sound than like a nice
18:17
big fan that just has a background whooshing sound. That is very fair. How about the next
18:24
time we do this? Yep. I mean, you can you can prove me wrong. I I’ll I’ll try you out.
18:29
I’ll try you out. Because what’s nice about water cooling is because you can get so much more surface area, you can
18:36
run the fans barely spinning at all and some of the pumps are really nice and
18:43
there’s accessories that you can get to hook them up in tandem. So, you get redundancy. It’s like ECC,
18:48
but you don’t get the redundancy for things growing in your cooling fluids and stuff like that.
18:54
He does watch our videos. I’ve I’ve seen people with green stuff
19:00
in there or leaking on your entire server rack. That’s bad, too. Listen, his whole server rack just
19:06
covered. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I’m still trying to convince you. Yeah, we’re trying to get him back.
19:13
Yeah. Way to go, Elijah. Yeah, I assume this is a special see-through LTT tech
19:19
screwdriver. You better believe it. What do you think? I just like seeing inside technology and
19:24
stuff. Oh, nice strategy. Oh, our community wanted to know what you do
19:31
to relax. I read less than I used to, but that’s still what I do these days. I mean, this
19:37
is part of it. I just design pointless stuff. There’s no pressure there. I
19:42
actually don’t think I have a very stressful life. How much of that do you think is attitude though? Because you do bring up
19:48
that as the user base grew, you did feel more pressure, right? I mean, part of it is we have I
19:56
wouldn’t say perfected, but almost perfected the workflow. Uh we’ve used the same workflow for the kernel now for
20:03
20 years. And it’s not just git, it’s the whole release schedule. It’s everything around it. And that means
What do you do to relax?
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that you when you know what’s going on and you kind of it’s it’s a predictable
20:15
workflow. It’s it’s no [snorts] big surprises. That’s not stressful. And
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technical problems are not stressful either because technology you can fix, right? And we’re good at that. The main
20:28
source of stress for me tends to be uh people. People you I mean I’m not a
20:34
people person famously, right? Nvidia you And uh people [music] are strange and
20:42
and you can’t fix people. I think we’re ready for the case. In which case,
20:47
wow, that was that was terrible. Don’t even give me a reaction for that. I deserve nothing. Uh Elijah, I want to hit us
20:54
with one of our other community questions. If you could start Linux development all over again, what would you do
21:00
differently? So, there’s two answers to that. One is now that I know how hard it is, I would
21:06
never have gotten started in the first place, right? You you need to have a certain amount of naive [music] to do
21:13
something this big. The flip side of that answer is I would not do a thing
21:18
differently because it worked so well and it’s been such an enjoyable experience. I’ve been very lucky in my
If you could start Linux over again, what would you change?
21:24
life. I was at a startup for seven years and I never felt that I was the smartest
21:30
person in the room and I never want to feel that. Right. Right. You want to be surrounded by people more
21:35
competent than you were. Right. Because otherwise what’s the point? What brought you here?
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Well, sometimes it makes you feel good to be the smartest person in the room. [laughter]
21:47
Uh that’s a burn on you, too. I’m still hysterical. [laughter]
21:52
The license choice. I still stand by 100%. I love the GPL version two. I
21:58
think it’s it was the right license and it still is the right license. Now, this isn’t one of our planned questions,
22:05
[music] but have you ever thought about how much people have profited from
22:11
Linux? Do you have any idea? No, but I I have said
22:18
that I feel very good about the fact that I now have two different projects
22:23
that I started that both created billion-dollar companies.
22:29
I think billion is an understatement. Yes. But I mean, clearly they people
22:37
built billion-dollar companies on top of both of my big projects. And and some people ask me, «Doesn’t
Have you thought about other companies profit using Linux?
22:46
that make you feel bad?» And I’m like, «No, you’re not getting it. That makes
22:51
me feel really good because that means that what I did was worthwhile and
22:57
meaningful, right?» Does it weird you out a little bit that the largest entity
23:02
known for for for Git at this point more broadly in terms of the user base is
23:08
owned by Microsoft? It’s strange in a historical context, right?
23:13
But it’s it’s kind of funny at the same time, right? And and what I find even funnier
23:20
is that so it turns out these days I think Microsoft makes more money of
23:25
their cloud than they do of like Windows which is like what I grew up with them being
23:33
known Windows behemoth and and it turns out the majority of the Microsoft cloud runs
How do you feel about Microsoft owning GitHub?
23:39
Linux. So, so we’re we’re friends, right? The rivalry
23:45
took some more time, but that went away, too. And I’m very happy with that. I mean, I think that depends who you
23:51
ask. Um, now that Linux is coming in a big way for gaming, there are certainly
23:58
people at Microsoft, particularly in the Xbox division, who are feeling pretty combative and defensive about that. I
24:05
can tell you that much. Yeah, I’m obviously not a gamer, so I I don’t see that part. But
24:11
you did make some games. Oh, very bad ones. Yes. No. But I mean,
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if you’re a teenager and you’re into computers, you will make a game. I mean, that’s that’s what you do.
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What? Didn’t you make one, Lion? No. [snorts] Are you sure? Yes. Okay.
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Well, if you’re competent and a teenager and into computers, you make a game. Uh,
24:32
there are different kinds of competency. [laughter] I met a girl when I was a teenager. That fair enough.
24:38
Now, you were pretty surprised to see that we had like a product lineup and that is a larger part of our our
24:44
business these days. But I just I pulled this out to open up a box and I thought you might like it. This is actually made
24:49
by another creator team, Evan and Caitlyn. Slide up. There you go. And then slide it back. Oh yeah.
24:55
Isn’t that cute? I actually know who you were talking about because I may not watch yours.
25:00
What the heck? like every other YouTuber you mentioned. I know them, but how is that even possible? We share a
25:07
name. Uh I now I’ve seen your videos, too. But you’re talking about the guys or the
25:13
couple who does like they do that pumpkin thing every year. That’s where I know them from.
Youtuber Merch
25:18
Yeah. So, this is their product. You could stab somebody with this and you’d have fun doing it. Would you prefer that or the samurai
25:25
sword? It’s been [laughter] It would take longer. Yeah. what that it’s a very cool thing for me to see
25:31
others in the in the creator space kind of parlaying what they learn sort of
25:36
doing things with uh I I see and I know it’s owned by Google but I see YouTube
25:42
as almost like a like an opening up of knowledge in the same way that open source is that just was not available
25:50
before and it’s just it’s very cool to me to see people taking the knowledge they gain from this
25:55
giant repository and just creating things. It’s uh Yeah. So, I wanted to shout them out cuz I haven’t actually
26:01
talked about this yet. I bought one. They offered to give me one. I said, «You know what? That’s so cool. I can’t take it from you. Um I’ll buy one.» I
26:08
guess this goes in here now. Elijah, do you want to hit us with another community question? Was there ever a moment that you got so
26:14
close to just walking away and being done with developing Linux? No. No. I mean, there’s been many, many,
26:20
many moments where like I walk away and I just say that, hey, I I’m fed up. It
26:30
might be some technical problem that I just been hitting my head against the wall or it might be like just somebody
26:37
who annoys me and I’ll walk away and I’ll take a long warm bath and read a
26:43
book because I’m like, I need to [music] relax. I need to just walk away from this. But it’s always with the knowledge
Have you ever wanted to walk away from Linux?
26:49
that hey, tomorrow morning I’ll be there fresh as roses. Okay, we’re going to go a little deeper
26:55
now. I do think that when you do things that are consequential, the other things can start to feel
27:03
inconsequential and therefore boring. [music] Do you feel that if you reach the stage where
27:10
you’re not you don’t feel needed with Linux that it’ll be very difficult?
27:15
I hope not. I mean, I definitely don’t want to be
27:20
the guy who halts on to something. And I’ve always said that if somebody better comes along, I’ll step aside. And I I
27:28
really hope that’s true. Uh, okay. Well, I wired up your bottom fans, and maybe now is a good time for us to talk about
27:33
your case. So, this the Fractal Torrent was chosen because it has two gigantor
27:42
fans in the front. Scandinavian design. That’s sort of what they’re I’m hoping I see there’s a mesh there.
27:48
So there’s a mesh dust will not go in. Oh, this is not on our scheduled questions, but cats or dogs?
27:55
Both. I don’t count cats and dogs even as pets. They they become family members.
28:00
Um dogs maybe even more so than cats, even though I started out with cats.
28:05
But then you have pets like rats and gerbles and fish. Oh, fish
Case Choice
28:10
aren’t even pets. Fish. Fish are pests. I don’t understand people who do aquariums.
28:15
But we’re not judging. No, I mean, no, it’s not you. It’s not a Linus thing to be judgmental.
28:22
Yeah. Okay. Sorry. [laughter] No, we’ve had everything. Uh, rats were great.
28:28
I’ve heard they’re awesome. They are. I mean, we the the biggest problem with the rats
Cats or Dogs?
28:34
was that they only live for three years, and that broke my daughter’s heart, and she said, «Never again.» because they
28:40
don’t live long enough, too. And and they they like they bond and they’re so social. They are very social. They’re they’re
28:46
fun. They’re they’re nice creatures. Did you know that Alberta, Canada, is the only place on Earth other than I
28:53
believe the Antarctic continent where there are no rats? I think Canadians might be overly proud of
28:58
this because maybe it’s because even rats don’t want to live. That’s crazy.
29:04
Sorry. [laughter] Yeah, you need to cut that out. But Oh, no. That’s hilarious. I love it. I
29:09
love it. See, what I was what I was teeing myself up for was they were erraticated, but
29:15
[music] his was better. Okay, I think our next order of business
29:21
is power. We went very overkill.
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Okay, I see that. 1600 watts. That is the Prime TX1600.
29:33
Basically, it’s a big box and it’s gonna fit there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. That’ll be fine. And what we
29:39
liked about this was you like reliability. Y 12-year warranty. And we both like
29:45
silence and because it’s so efficient and rated for so much power, that fan is
29:51
unlikely to ever even spin. [music] Very good. You know, power supplies matter.
Power Supply
29:56
They’re They may not be the sexiest part of a computer, but they do matter.
30:01
That’s what I tell my wife about my power supply. Wow. [gasps]
30:07
I’m going to switch spots with you. I’m going to Whoa. Which one’s which now? Okay. Okay. I couldn’t get him to do the
30:13
I’d like to interject, but can you just stand there for a second and then just point at me? Oh, you’re going to dub over this.
30:19
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is for the Spider-Man meme. I don’t do social media, so I don’t do the memes. The Spider-Man’s point at each other,
30:26
and they’re both Spider-Man. Don’t worry about it. It’ll it’ll be great. Okay. Yeah. [laughter]
30:32
I’m trying to actually build it. Elijah, save me. Hit me with a couple of rapid fire questions. Is it pronounced GIF or
30:37
GIF? Oh, it’s GIF. No. Yes. Yes.
30:43
No, I’m kidding. It’s GIF. [music]
30:49
I actually got this question. Not this question, but somebody sent me an email asking me if [music] Git is with a hard
Here you go Reddit…
30:56
G or a soft G like GIF. And I was like, [music] don’t don’t even make that joke.
31:01
Okay. Hit us with another one. Elijah, you were talking about it earlier, walking away from Linux briefly. Well, what happens to Linux if you just die?
31:09
Wow, what a weird way to ask that. That’s what the community wanted to
Gif or Jif?
31:14
know. The traditional question is actually if you get hit by a bus. Oh, the implication is that I die. But
31:20
okay, can we redo the take then? [laughter] No, no, you’re stuck with it now. Uh,
31:25
you asked Lennis Torbald’s that question. I You have to live with that. No, the community.
31:31
Unless you just die. Well, wait. [laughter] You know what? We have such a healthy
31:37
development community, it’s it’s ridiculous. Most other open- source
What happens to Linux if you «Vanish»?
31:42
projects have like a couple of people involved. If it’s a healthy community, they might have tens. We have a thousand
31:50
people involved in every single release. And we do releases every nine months, every nine weeks. If I fall down and die
31:58
or my plane crashes on the way back home from Oh, I don’t want to be responsible for
32:03
that. [music]
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That would kill my reputation completely. Well, but then you can do the intro with
32:17
the swords and and make it really impressive, right? Oh, lordy. There it can be only one. and I killed
32:25
the other one. On the internet, nobody has good taste, so it it would become a meme, I’m sure.
32:30
Is this you approving that we can do that then? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. If I’m dead, I won’t care. Okay, speaking of you’re dead and won’t
32:37
be able to, I guess, consent to it. What necrophilia? No. No, no, that’s not where I was going. Jesus. That’s not [laughter] where I was going.
32:43
I was going to go into the topic about AI and generative AI. Is it a bubble or
32:49
is it a computing revolution? I mean it’s clear it’s clearly both right it’s clearly a bubble and at the same time
32:56
it’s very interesting and I think it will change society and I think it will change how most skilled jobs get done at
33:03
the same time I don’t think it’s as revolutionary as people make it out to
33:08
be I want to specifically talk about AI with respect to coding and particularly
What are your Thoughts on AI?
33:15
vibe coding what are your thoughts on an AI model being trained on on the work of
33:21
real people like in in the artistic community rightfully angry that the AI
33:26
never would have been able to do anything without the large scale theft of work. So what is your take on on
33:34
that? [music] I’m like that’s reality. Deal with it. That genie is out of the bottle. You’re not you’re not getting it
33:41
back. And you’re not getting it back whether you are a photographer who’s out of work. Those things are gone, right?
33:48
because you can fake pictures so much better now or you’re a programmer that
33:54
has to learn to deal with a new reality. I think actually on the programming
34:00
side, we’re in a fairly good spot. I really think that AI will be a tool and
34:06
it will make people more productive. I think that vibe coding is great for getting into [music] programming. I
34:13
think it’s going to be a horrible thing to maintain. Right. Oh yeah. Right. So I don’t think programmers go
34:19
away. You still want to have the people who know how to maintain the end result.
34:25
I’m a huge believer in AI. I’m not a huge believer in the the whole things
34:30
going on around AI. I I find the market marketing and the market to be sick and
34:37
twisted [music] and and there is going to be a crash and it’s not it’s going to be ugly.
34:43
Not financial advice. No, no, no. No financial advice. Speaking of companies that are growing
34:48
exponentially, uh we opted not for one of their GPUs. Wow, what a segue again.
34:56
This to be fair, I have to say I famously uh was not a huge fan of
35:01
Nvidia. You Mhm. Yes, that but was a thing. [clears throat] The AI thing has actually made things so
35:08
much better because it turns out Nvidia cares about well where the money comes. Turns out,
35:15
it turns [laughter] out that is always the case. That was a big surprise for us. But what you uh didn’t choose was the
35:22
classic Linux-, which is a Radeon card. You specifically requested an Intel Arc,
Intel GPU?
35:29
which is going to raise at least a few eyebrows into a shape like a Ark.
35:34
[snorts] Thanks, Elijah. You know what? Let’s keep you. Let’s put you on the boat with
35:40
uh two of everything. Oh, the ark. Yeah, [screaming] let’s go. Wow. It never ends.
35:46
According to Wikipedia back in 2006, little outdated, it was estimated that your code was about 2% of the Linux
35:53
kernel. Oh, yeah. If you had to guess now, or if you know, what percentage would you say it is
35:59
today? The first version of Linux was like 10,000 lines. I’m sure I’ve written code since then, but
36:07
but there’s been thousands of people involved. And what I do these days is I don’t write code. Sometimes I write code
36:13
snippets and send them out as emails and saying something like this in the hopes that somebody else will then write the
36:19
final tested code [music] and send it back to me. Hey, that’s another thing Lionuses do is send crappy incomplete emails for other
How much code does Linus T Write?
36:26
people to do the work. Yeah. No, that’s that’s my life. Lines of code is not something you should ever
36:31
attribute any importance to. Yeah. So like when we have 5 million lines of code for uh hardware
36:40
descriptions, they’re actually generated from the literal hardware
36:46
descriptions that AMD uses to do their car. [music] What’s more important is your linus of
36:52
codes and we have one of those. The puns. The puns, they keep on coming.
36:57
There was a recent thing [music] from a major tech company where uh developers
37:02
were asked to say how many lines of code they wrote and if it wasn’t enough they were terminated. And there was someone
37:08
here that was extremely upset about that approach to measuring productivity because Oh yeah. Now you shouldn’t even be upset
37:15
at that point. That’s just incompetence. Anybody who thinks that’s a valid metric
37:20
is too stupid to work at a tech company.
37:26
You do know who you just said that about, right? No. Oh. Uh, he was a prominent figure in the
37:34
um improved efficiency of the US government recently. Oh, apparently I was spot on. [laughter]
37:41
Is this up to your standards? If I just kind of get these strapped down here, then are we good? Is it Scandinavian enough?
37:49
I have somebody to blame. If somebody ever makes fun of my machine, I like I had nothing to do with it. Oh, well
37:54
that’s a lot of pressure. It was Lionus’s fault. [laughter] Yeah. Nice. Damn, that didn’t work.
38:01
You were traveling just before this trip. How often do you get to travel [music]
38:06
uh for your line of work or have to? Um, yeah. Whoever wrote that question doesn’t realize that it’s not get to
38:13
travel, it’s it’s a pain. one year fairly early on I was counting the days
38:19
I was away from home and I was away more than half the year and that’s also the
Blame Linus for the Computer
38:26
year I decided never again and this was literally this must have been 30 years ago this was when I was still living in
38:32
Finland I don’t enjoy traveling for work uh these days at least I travel in
38:39
business class so that if I do the long overseas ones I
How much do you travel for work?
38:45
lay flat and try to sleep through flights. That makes it bearable, but it doesn’t make it fun. I don’t tend to
38:52
enjoy big cities. I mean, some of them are interesting. I still enjoy going to Tokyo for some I don’t know why Tokyo is
38:58
one of those cities that even as a big city is actually it’s got so much character. Yes, it it
39:04
it does things differently. So, this question was supposed to transition us into saying thank you so
39:09
much for coming up here. I to the big city of Vancouver. Well, no, but I was blown away when we arranged
39:16
for this and I was ready to move heaven and earth and bring everything to you and you were just like, «Oh, yeah. Well,
39:23
no. I mean, I guess I’ll just come up to you guys.» That mean, but it makes so much more sense.
39:30
And honestly, I as I told Fake Lenus here, um I I actually enjoy doing
39:36
something different. He compared this experience to a pre-academy awards uh
39:43
dinner gala thing as well as flying in a fighter jet. Well, I didn’t compare this to that.
39:49
You mentioned those things in the [laughter] same sentence. Yes.
39:55
No, it is one of the things I have enjoyed uh as part of Linux has been
40:00
that I’ve been able to do things that most people don’t get to do, right? And
40:06
most people don’t get to come and have fake leaners build a computer for them.
40:11
That’s right. So, this is actually fun. [laughter] Sounds like Please don’t sound like you
40:17
have a gun to your head off camera. No, no, no, no, no. I love [laughter] it. I love it. Honestly, that would be the that would be if we weren’t if we
40:24
didn’t still have a lot to do, that would be like the best final line of the video. [laughter] This was fun.
40:29
Fun. This is one people wanted. Lionus or Linus.
40:37
So if you speak Swedish to me, it’s Linus. Oh, okay. I don’t even know what they
40:42
do. First, dude. Oh, no. I did it. Oh, [laughter] and he’s going to leave.
40:49
That’s okay. The video can be building 65% of a computer [laughter] with a store.
40:54
When I moved to the US and started speaking English, I I started saying Lionus. Even coming over here and
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interacting with English-speaking people, most of them don’t know how to pronounce our name anyway. [music]
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So if you have to correct them anyway. Oh, but I don’t want to correct them. Like I don’t go by TWS because nobody
Linus or Linus?
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can pronounce TWS. Don’t even try. [laughter] Right.
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But after I spoke such fluent Swedish before coming into this, did you know
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anything or did you search anything about my personal Linux hy jinks [music] that I’ve experienced?
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Why are the two columns open source and installed? So, I consciously did not uh
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search after. I mean, I’ve heard of you. Don’t I mean, I made fun of the fact that that I knew all the other
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YouTubers, but uh yes, I I knew of you and I’d seen videos of you, but at the
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same time, I did not want to come in here having researched the hardware or
41:56
researched you. I have accidentally deleted my entire
Does Linus T know about Linus S Linux Adventures?
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guey without realizing what I was doing. Hey, that was something. I’ve done that. And I have to type yes, do as I say in
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order to install it. And maybe it will install and launch. Now, what is the
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point of having a Oh, I managed to completely brick an
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install. Um, [music] trying to do something as simple as install Steam. What are you talking about? I’ve done
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nothing with this other than install that hard info thing. How did this line up with your expectations for today? I didn’t really
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have a lot of expectations. I I’m not saying the expectations were low. I I’m saying [laughter] they they were
42:38
non-existent. It’s like I didn’t know much expect, [music] right? You’re a groundbreaking YouTuber.
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That’s what the message here is. You are you are changing the world.
42:51
That’s a great sound bite. Let’s just do the whole video with just that. See? Yeah. Okay. So, 15 seconds. So, this is basically this
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is basically on you now because if you give a reporter a sound bite like that, obviously they’re going to cut all the rest of the part where they say they had
43:06
literally zero expectations of you. Maybe that’s that’s why there’s so little video of me because people
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decided, «Yep, we’re better off without this.» Do you want to do the honors? Here we go.
43:17
Don’t miss it. You missed it. There’s a fan rubbing. Elijah, you closed the side panel, sir.
You can see Linus S almost cry LMAO
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I cursed it when I closed the side panel. I knew it. That’s that gentle whooshing sound you asked for. Right.
43:29
That’s [laughter] Yeah. No, it’s like a cat purring in your lap. When we tested it, it was not making
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that sound. So, I am blaming you building it. Wait, I see it. It is the fan. It fell out of It fell out of the uh
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little cable management groove. [music] We got this. Everything is fine. Everything is saved. 64 gigs of RAM all
43:49
showing up. That’s a good sign. That means all of our pads are contacting the pins in the motherboard socket. are
Turning on the Computer
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okay. Try with the XMPP profile enabled. Just try it. See you.
44:00
Living on the wild side. Hit us with a rapid fire question. This one on our Reddit got almost 100 up votes. What do you prefer, Xbox,
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PlayStation, or Nintendo Switch? We don’t have an Xbox. We do have a PlayStation. I don’t think it’s been
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turned on in a year because it gets turned on for Christmas when the kids come back to town and they play [music]
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whatever. They play Little Bigplet and something else. We had a Nintendo. I think we had a [music] We had the Wii U.
The Computer Lives!
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The The odd one, right? The one that Yeah, that’d be the Wii U. Yeah. And to be fair, I’ve played games, too. I What’s the Shoot the Dinosaurs
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game? Horizon. Um Horizon Zero Dawn. Yeah, I actually like that a lot. Here’s something cool. Horizon Zero Dawn
Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo?
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was the first game I played all the way through on Linux. Oh, it works on Linux now. Sure does. Okay. Yeah, we’re
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Let’s go. Nobody does the test the media. That takes forever. These are the real tech tips. The real
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Linus tech tips right here. Let’s go. Do you want to install Fedora? Fedora is still your your distrib.
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No, I mean I I can do the heavy lifting and press that button. Thank you. Well, I I would I would I would hate to,
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[music] you know, uh step on your Linux. This is presumably a newer version than
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whatever I installed last time. Why Fedora? They being very closely aligned to kernel developers.
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They made things easier like Abuntu very much wanted to be like a consumer
Setting Up Linux with Linus
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oriented thing and in the process when I tried it many many years ago they
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literally made it hard for me to upgrade the kernel because that was not their target audience. [music] So I said yeah
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this is not for me clearly by design. And at the same time, there are the really tech oriented ones where
Why Fedora Linux?
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by the way. By the [music] way, yeah, really, it’s a it’s a it’s a thing.
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It’s a meme. Oh, they’ll get it. They’ll get it. They’ll get it. I don’t where you compile your own everything. You compile
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your own dro. And again, that was not geared for me because I don’t care about
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anything else than the kernel. So, the only thing I want to compile is my own kernel. So, I want a DRO that just
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installs and just works and and the only thing I will replace is actually the kernel.
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Follow-up question to that then that was on the Reddit was, do you think that the advantage of having a million different
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dros out there is also as disadvantage for Linux because there’s so many options out there,
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right? I mean, I I think the fragmentation has been a huge disadvantage over the years. If you’re a commercial
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software developer, you don’t have one target, you have multiple targets.
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And it’s clearly held things back. At the same time, I mean,
Is there too many Linux options?
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having the wild wild west kind of thing has its own advantages. And I think the
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open source community has worked very well in this environment. It it just hasn’t worked for everybody. I think all
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the major distros are very aware that it’s a problem and they are they would
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want to have a more unified like distribution but at the same time they
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all want that unified distribution to be their unified distribution. So anytime the topic of I want to set up a
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Linux computer comes up what should I pick and I don’t think you could find two people that will ever give the same
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answer immediate flame war immediately becomes an argument. So I think it’s part of the open source
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history too. We’ve had flame wars over editors. Those kind of died out. You have to have
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something that you believe passionately. So now that you’ve said Fedora though,
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this is the only one that anyone’s ever allowed to install again. Right. Right. Right. Now I when I’m emperor and
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king of the world, it will be Fedora. That will be Should we figure out this install thing? We can try flashing another drive if you
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want. I do think that maybe that is make updating. I I just can’t tell if it’s
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moving. So then what I’ll let you do is Yeah. Do you want to show us how it’s done here? Please.
48:08
It’s your operating system. By all means. This has never been more true than right now in this moment.
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Well, let’s [laughter] 43 live ISO sounds about right. I I also don’t know how to flash that
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image under Windows. So, you’re you’re on your own there. I I did the hard lifting here by
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are you okay pressing the download button? That’s a lot of pressure. What’s your number one tech tip that you give people?
Linus S broke Linux again…
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I don’t give people tech tips because I mean I sit in my office reading email
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and if somebody asks me over email for tech tips, I won’t answer that. I mean that’s not the kind of questions.
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I think they’re emailing the wrong guy. Yeah, [laughter] you can forward it to me if you want. Yeah. Right. Stall fedora. Boom. Oh, he crazy as a
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fox. Wow. To be fair, the other Lionus did touch it in between. So, I think that
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cured it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, do you encrypt your drive? I I will encrypt, but not this time
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around. Got it. Right. I should keep this drive cuz then I might have a Linux install that isn’t cursed. I can’t believe it
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took me this long to work up the courage to ask. I can’t believe you responded in like 15 minutes or whatever it was.
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Well, that’s actually a rule for me. Really? I either respond almost immediately or you won’t get a response
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at all. I don’t leave stuff in my compost pile of a mailbox.
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That’s something you guys don’t have in common. No, I I use my inbox as like a like a
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neverending garbage to-do list. I actually like I like that a lot. Okay, good.
49:38
How do you do it? Location services on or off? I’m okay. So my approach to privacy has
49:43
been that I’m so public that the more I can poison the that well the better off I am. Don’t try to make [snorts] be
Linus T Email Hyenine
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worried about something. Just give it all [music] out and be so uninteresting
49:58
that nobody cares. What would be some of the first things that you would set up? I have my own background which is not
50:05
quite as cartoonish as this. It’s just a photo I took a nighttime photo. Is there
50:10
any chance that we could get that background to share with people? Oh, you don’t have you don’t have to. There’s no
50:15
pressure or anything, but I probably hide it on my phone. I can send it to somebody. And then if anyone wants to get the
50:22
official Minis desktop wallpaper, do you have Android phones so that you get full resolution photos?
50:28
You got to believe it. So that was one of the questions was iPhone or Android. And is there like a
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because it’s, you know, has Linux as its backbone philosophical approach to choosing Now obviously part of it Yeah.
Linus T Background!
50:41
No. Uh part of it is also I got free phones for a while for I mean people send me stuff.
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That’s something we have in common. Yeah. So and and Apple never sent me a free phone for some strange reason.
50:55
We have that in common too. [laughter] Apple doesn’t like me. Okay. We had one final question for you.
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Has mainstream acceptance of Linux become more important to you or is it enough that everyone’s using it whether
51:06
they know it or not? I actually don’t even care the whole enough that they you use it. I don’t care. I care deeply
iPhone or Android?
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about users in the sense that a project that doesn’t have users is pointless.
51:19
Right. Right. So users do give any project and my projects in particular then meaning in
51:26
that sense. But at the same time if you don’t use Linux that’s again your bad
51:32
choice. I don’t it’s it’s it’s that’s not on me. As long as there are enough users that that what I do is meaningful
The Final Question
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and not just some mental masturbation, I’m fine. And you know what? I won’t feel bad if
51:45
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52:42
way through and all in one solution. Yes, it’s true. Listen when I say that all you got to do is oh do this was
52:51
amazing. This vastly exceeded my expectations. This was so cool. Um,
52:59
thank you so much on behalf of me, my team, the audience. I think you guys
53:05
leave some love down in the comments below. Please, I mean, this was odd for me. I I I’ve
53:11
enjoyed it. Let’s hope I enjoy it after I read the comments, too. [laughter] Yeah, be nice.
53:17
Be nice, you guys. I I do have to say, I mean, one of the things having done this for 35 plus
53:22
years, [music] you learn to have a thick skin. I probably had a thick skin to begin with, but you get I get a lot of
Outro
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hate, too. I mean, you said I’m universally loved. No. Well, what I meant is throughout the
53:36
universe, there are people that love you. Yeah. [laughter] Not that all of them do. If you search the whole universe, you are bound to
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find