Elon Musk and Sandy Munro

Elon Musk and Sandy Munro discuss the Cybertruck! Sandy’s 2nd interview with Elon Musk! This time they talk about the Cybertruck.

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Introduction
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hey boys and girls I have uh Mr musk with us today and uh first off thank you
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so much for uh for agreeing it’s like uh I don’t know what time it is but late
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and um and you’ve got two more hours to go so we’re GNA fly through this as quick as possible sure make it painful
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anyway first off thank you so much I really appreciate it yeah I appreciate your analysis over the years it’s uh uh
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I think accurate and thoughtful well I I think that uh I think that so far the we
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haven’t really released a heck of a lot but we’ve got something like five hours of video and whatnot that I know people
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are going to be very very in fact I’ve already gotten a little note from Jim
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Farley saying when are you going to release the information so uh I know everybody is really really interested in
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this and I just have one quick question for you this has been a hell of a week uh based on what
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I’ve seen on X but um yeah what was the high point as far as you’re concerned
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with the uh with with with what happened this week and whatnot apart from the fact that you know he released it which
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which thing really yeah I mean this is our biggest product release in quite a while um and
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um I mean the Sol cyber truck is our you know probably our most revolutionary
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product so for it to actually reach production and to deliver
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uh deliver the first art production articles to people you know which means it’s passed all of the regulatory tests
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and um and as reliable and some you know something that can be out there on the
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roads uh was was extremely difficult uh i’ I’ve often said that you know PR
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prototypes are easy production is hard um you know with a with a small team you can make a
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prototype of almost anything with uh in maybe six six months with a 100 people
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uh but to uh actually create a production system you need 10 sort of 10,000 people and and two years or three
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years actually two or three years most people can’t even do that so um and I
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you may not know this but I I take Tesla as um working at the speed of thought
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not not like what everybody else does you know committees and whatnot you guys
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seem to be able to spot something that should be done and maybe other people
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have spotted it as well but you actually get it done and that’s where like self-driving I’m really I’ve driven it
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I’m very impressed with that um I did give him one suggestion though taking
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this the first time into a great big giant um uh parking garage that wind ing
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Dad I’ve asked the guys whether or not there’s something you can do about putting a little like a bar on the
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bottom so I can see where the hell my wheels are and they said no software
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done and I think they may have implemented it already that’s what I mean by speed of thought so I I I like
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also providing a bridge to start a production 48 volts I
How difficult was it to change the voltage
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mean it’s been a long time that it’s been a 12 volts far too long yeah 60 years so I’ve got a question for you how
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difficult was it to move from 12 to 48 because I know when the S came out yeah
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I wasn’t or the Plaid came out I I wasn’t happy I thought you were going to do it on that I was looking for that big
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giant weight reduction and cutting all the wire and whatnot but this one you got it in so how how difficult was it to
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to get that to happen well it’s very difficult to change the the bus voltage from 12 to 48 because all of the
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peripheral items everything that connects to it has to interface at 48 volts or you’ve got to step down to 12 volts yeah so uh you know there are
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there are hundreds of things that interface to the the low voltage bus um
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and that’s everything from you know the electronics in the car the the window the window motor the uh airbags
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the you know the thing the the seat adjustment mode everything is is set the
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the the headlamps everything’s set to 12 volts um so the entire supply chain um
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the entire design infrastructure is set for 12 volts this is why it’s been stuck at this absurdly low number for a long
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time um and I think I mean people that
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know a little bit about electrical electrical engineering um you don’t need to know a lot but just a little bit uh
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we’ll understand that U you you you actually want a higher voltage in order to reduce the uh resistance losses right
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so um the the the heating in any wire is the current is i s r you know so it’s a
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the the square of the current so if you’re trying to get a particular power rating through then uh as you are um as
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you as you increase the voltage uh you can decrease the current that voltage times amperage equals your power
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to hold power constant um but the heating is is proportionate to the square of the current so you want to
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raise the voltage in order to lower the current thus lower the heating uh in the wire and the net effect being that you
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can have um much as thinner wires um then uh as as you raise the voltage you
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can you can drop the the the thickness of the wires you can have much you can use much less in a nutshell you can use
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much less copper um and the wire harness weighs much less as you raised the voltage but you did even more because
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you went to the new um bus system and um you know um in the 80s when I was still
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working for Ford yeah I did everything I could to try and get us to go to um um
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the it was a bus system that that did that failed and um and we couldn’t get
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that to happen and once it failed that’s it we can never go back again it’s failed it’ll never work it’ll never work
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but you guys made it work and I heard a couple of different numbers but somewhere
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between in in uh in percentage of weight in what sometimes something around 70%
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of the communication wire disappeared 48 volt who who cares it’s gone and this is
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another thing that um you know multiplexing was that’s the name that it used to be called but anyways
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multiplexing was really good but it was it was too slow um and you’ve got it to
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work and I I just I maybe you could explain who who came up with it when did
When did you decide to go in that direction
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you decide that you were going to go in that direction was it part of the 48 bolt discussion or how did that work um
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well there’s there’s actually a couple of things happening uh so besides 48 volt it’s also moving to
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ethernet over canbas y so ethernet just allows for a much higher data rate than
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um the sort of the canvas which is the sort of typical data bus on a car
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um the um you know one of the one of the effects of of being able to of having a
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very high bandwidth bus is is that you don’t have to have as many pointto point wires because you’re not constrained by
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the data rate so if if your data rate per wire is low as it is typically with canbus you have to have many point point
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wires whereas if um you have a very high data rate like ethernet then you can simply uh attached to the bus and not
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worry about um any kind of latency or or packet loss or or you know data loss essentially so it’s um so you need far
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fewer pointto Point wires um so it’s both going to a four times higher voltage thus having thinner wires and
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needing fewer wires because we have a much higher data rate bus now I think
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frankly these things are pretty obvious they’re like it’s simply bringing cars to the you know the year the 21st
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century um because we’ve had ethernet for a long time yeah um there there’s nothing that’s really prevented the car
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industry from moving to a higher bus voltage uh and a a much a higher data
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rate system than than canbus which is a very old protocol um and so I feel like
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actually what we’re doing is we’re we’re we’re kind of doing making the obvious moves they seem very obvious to me like
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as as opposed to like some you know Eureka it’s it’s it’s it’s not like is
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it actually a breakthrough well we’re just trying to bring car electron ICS to you know the year 2023 right uh similar
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to what you’d have for you know a laptop or a you know any kind of computer well
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without sounding like I’m sucking up because I almost never do um I just
Leadership
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think it’s because a leadership um I I’ve worked with many different car companies some of them big some of them
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small but to make a decision like that usually involves number one a bunch of
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NBAs and number two lawyers and as soon as that comes into play boom I don’t care what sure what engineer if you
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haven’t got a leader that’s going to be no I don’t care just do it and um and
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that kind of an obvious idea to an engineer is totally oblivious to people
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who count beans and and um and basically trying to make you do nothing nothing
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new anyway I mean I think if if if somebody’s going to I believe it’s important to be good at the to have some
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good understanding of the field that you are leading so uh if if you’re leading say a technology company you want to be
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I think good at engineering or reasonably good at engineering uh you need to if you’re you know leading a
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company which is sort of more marketing based then you I think being being a skilled at marketing is is uh is fine
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but um you know like you don’t want the you don’t want your product to be um
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something that you don’t understand essentially so uh there’s a lot of technology in the car so I I think it’s
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important to have an understanding of Technology of Engineering in order to make sensible decisions um I
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mean even for something I think as trival as i squar r heating uh if you
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ask I think there wouldn’t be that many technology company CEOs Who would know what that means I would say zero except
Steer by wire
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for you I maybe a few I think like Jensen w at media and few others you know but at the end of the day very very
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few would know um and um and if they did know it wouldn’t make any difference anyway
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because again they’re going to have to bump in to the same roadblocks over and over again and then there’s the other
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roadblock the national roadblock and you’ve got um basically steer by wire I
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yeah wire is is is awesome if actually the I I didn’t really spend much time on it uh in the cybertruck presentation
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because it was hard to explain why it’s going to be great um but you have to if you drive the car it’s immediately
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obvious exactly um so steer by wire means that the the the steering yolk um
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is not mechanically connected to the wheels so you now now this is the way that all modern uh jet airliners are
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made it’s yeah you know it’s the the sort of the steering yolk or stick on on
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a modern airliner is simply a command to the computer um so for the Cyber Tru the
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the steering Oak is a command to the computer so that means we can adjust the gain um which so uh and I I’ll you know
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try to say this in ways that say an engineering ordinance would understand but also that maybe the the general
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audience would also understand um by variable gain it’s kind of like turning out the if you’ve got an amplifier or
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something you turn the amplifier uh to a low setting or a high setting and and so
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you can increase the amplification of the motion of your steering yolk um according to what speed you’re driving
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so that if you’re uh in a par lot or like if you’re low- speed driving then a small movement of the steering YK
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results in a big movement in the wheels so that you can you you can do um you
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know a a U-turn with with minimal movement of the steer of the steering yolk um but then if you’re on a highway
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and you’re moving very fast you want um the wheels to only move a small amount when you move the Yol so it’s it’s it it
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basically moves the wheels the right amount based on the speed that you’re going and what you’re intentions are
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well the other good thing too is this has rear wheel steering yes so when I first got into it it’s very
Sandys first impressions
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um I don’t know nerve-wracking or imposing anyway first time you get in this thing it’s a very expensive truck I
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got like um I got maybe a couple of minutes of um like Rich Auto made all
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this stuff happen anyway um he said well this this this this and it’s hey got to go because they you know he had a lot of
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stuff to prepare so we got out and the very first thing I noticed very first
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thing I noticed was I got to get out of this parking spot and with rear wheel
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steering along with front wheel steering as well you it’s like it turned on a
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dime this is not like trying to turn the Queen Mary around this is a this is a
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really really in a in a parking lot this is going to kick everyone’s tail I mean
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turns like a small car even though it’s a big car yeah so that was another thing that has been talked about for years
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years but never implemented this car has got so many this truck has got so many
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applications that Engineers have been talking about uh since I don’t know Moses was a pup this is this is kind of
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like everything that um everything that I was kind of hoping to see so I’m I’m
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very very excited I also um you know I haven’t been the biggest fan of the
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model 3 and the model uh y’s back seat this one here is a monster I mean uh this is this is
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really I’m I’m really really delighted with that and I got in there I brought it around showed it to everybody they
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absolutely love that back seat yeah it’s very roomy inside I mean you can five large adults can easily sit the car
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easily yeah and I mean like I said I drove it around oh I love the big so
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there’s H there’s a bunch of people at J Motors when we were trying to help them out um I said why we got two windshield
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wipers why don’t we just put it yours doesn’t have it but I wanted a cam action that would catch both sides you
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don’t need it that that windshield so huge and that blade is so gigantic like
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a Katana Katana blade wind it’s like giant sword yeah it is and and it works
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re reasonably well because uh I don’t know how you arranged that we were going to drive in the rain and the fog and the
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mud uh but it worked out quite good because we’ve got tons of uh really good
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um really good footage on how that thing works and whatnot so I um I love a lot
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of it um your guys told me all about the uh the alumin or sorry the stainless
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steel and it’s a three XX whatever yeah but 300 series cut custom alloy that we
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made yeah but the big thing for me was when I found out I was pretty sure it’d be Austin because you can’t have rust
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but I didn’t know that you take the austinite work hard in it and now it’s me sorry Martin site and uh and hence
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the reason I couldn’t understand the bullets because I’ve shot through I I do
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some hunting and I’ve shot through stainless steel in the past yeah but with Martin side there’s no chance so
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that was that was a big surprise I’ve got a question for you though what was the biggest hold hold up I mean
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everybody’s been you know holding their breath for at least four years so what
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what really was the the biggest uh the biggest chall um well uh I think people
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sometimes forget you know like we’re going to deliver the car in 2019 we announced the car in 2019 I think we
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sort of expected perhaps that we’ be in production in 20 in a couple years later in 21 or something like that um but uh
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you know there there was a worldwide pandemic um then there was a global chip shortage yeah um and uh there were
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shortages of of so many parts it would be Irrelevant for us to bring to Market a car for which that we simply do not
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have parts to make yeah so that’s a that’s a pretty good reason yeah so I mean it would Parts it
No incremental units
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would add complexity but we would not ship any incremental units and that’s that’s uh it would actually make it make
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company worse yeah so at the end of the day um I wasn’t going to try and answer that qu you know a lot of people have
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been asking first off we were under an NDA kind of thing and then and then people were asking me the same question
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over and over again and I’m thinking you know what this would be a good time for you to shut up Sandy and let’s find out
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for sure and that’s exactly what I was thinking yeah it just wasn’t there we couldn’t make them so now I mean for a
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few years there we we we we actually uh couldn’t even make enough of the model Y and model 3 uh we were we were actually
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production constrained because of of multiple PCH storages so the global pandemic shut down massive sections of
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the global supply chain yeah well it was true for everyone I mean nobody nobody
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was immune to that stuff correct um so so it was just we if we if we can’t even make enough of the cars that we have
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already designed designed what’s the point of bringing a new one to Mark right so I’ve got another question then what are you looking at I’ve been asked
Unit volume
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um um Bloomberg and the um I don’t know bunch of bunch of these different news
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magazines have been asking me what’s the you know volume going to be for this thing uh say in 12 months what are you
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looking at well we have to be cautious about forward looking statements as a public
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publicly traded company um this is not a and it’s also very difficult to forecast
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the production ramp in the beginning because the production ramp always is like this very difficult scurve which
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means the production is very slow in the beginning um you’re constrained by whatever the least lucky least competent
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thing out of 10,000 items is yeah so the weak link yeah there’s at least 10,000
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unique parts and processes required to scale production and whatever the
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the like I said the least lucky uh dumbest thing in the whole system and it could be something complicated or
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something trivial that actually sets your your output rate um so it’s
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difficult it’s very difficult to predict the slope of that esve um that’s why you
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know it’s and and and and even just a few months difference one way or the other can really change the unit volume
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um the but the the Cyber Tru is not something that will be material to the
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to Tesla’s uh financials next year um meaning it will not you know of the
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vehicles we make it will be still such a small percentage that it will not be material in 2024 it will probably be
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material in 2025 yeah well um I when we
Production rate
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went down they were dry cycling the machines and whatnot and um you know I’m
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a pretty good guesser and um and it looked to me like this thing could be produced at 60 well one every 60 seconds
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60 jobs an hour whatever you want it it seemed to be somewhere in there and your other ones when I went through here
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before uh the model y was doing about 43 seconds and I got exactly the same
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number when I went through um when I went through um what do you call it
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Berlin um so I think at 60 U 60 jobs per
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hour is kind of like where everybody else is nobody’s at 43 nobody so that
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you’re unique that that’s that’s great for the uh uh for the three and the um
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and the Y um I’m just hoping this thing will ramp up quickly I I I know that I
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talked to oh we missed you at the party last night I’m sure you had other other
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things on your mind but there was a there was about 2,000 people there um and where beex had this party anyhow it
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it was really kind of cool but uh if you could have been there or maybe just been a fly on a wall to hear what what
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everyone had to say I mean there was plenty of cheering and plenty of uh plenty of people anxiously awaiting um
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their their delivery on this so I I think that I think that this is without
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a question of a doubt the most brilliant product that I’ve worked on we worked on
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the mini but not the original one so when isonas brought that out that was a big deal and then
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[Laughter] and danger
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danger I don’t know what I mean I have no idea system it’s not even clear what the P system
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[Applause] saying but anyways on this one here I think that this is the most iconic
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vehicle that we’ve seen in at least 40 years 30 or 40 years yeah this is this
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is this is I I specifically wanted to make something that looked like the future well so yeah it’s like I mean I
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think that the really it’s like if what car would Blade Runner drive that one
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yeah yeah so and that’s that’s kind of like what I was looking at I mean I mean it’s an OM a personnel carrier from the
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future exact and quite frankly um I I wanted to do something like this when I
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was working at um we were working for um uh Land Rover and they you know there
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was a thing called judge Judge Dread yeah Judge Dread Judge Dread drive this car for sure exactly and that’s what we
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wanted to do I wanted to buy the frames ship them over to uh the states and then I would put a Judge Dread body on it
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they wouldn’t go for it no no no that that’ll never work this on the other hand is just absolutely phenomenal when
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we were driving there was fog and muck and whatnot the the wing mirrors were
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continuously fogging up but it didn’t matter once I found out that I could so I just turn a turn signal on I could see
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what was going on if I needed to see something else flip on the turn signal the the camera comes up as clear as day
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perfect perfect and then I find out that you will also can wash the U wash the
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the glass like the the lenses off brilliant I mean uh I I just don’t
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understand why it is that no one else has kind of like jumped into this everybody else oh there a regulation
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well that means that we we just got to stop right there and that’s that’s the stupid part but I I uh I got a chance to
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see all the stuff I mean I’m really kind of impressed from an engineering standpoint this is like this is like
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nothing nobody’s got anything quite like this so um I’m like I say I know you
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you’re pressed for time but I have just one other thing I’d like to talk about a little bit so we have this iconic
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vehicle and it’ll be um it’ll be great I’m hoping hoping I can get a couple of
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them so I I know that this is going to be a great vehicle but there’s the other guys that are also uh dying to get a
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Tesla the $25,000 Tesla and so I’m wondering where where is that exactly
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where where are you with that yeah unfortunately because we’re a publicly traded company I cannot comment on things that would have a material impact
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on our financials oh okay well there you go yeah but anyways I um I’m hoping that
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that’s not too far down the line I really really would like to see something where we can um where like
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this one here I’m told that the one that the I I’m looking for the Beast the trotor and
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everything yeah and um and I’d like to get two of those and that vehicle is
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like 100 plus Grand I think that I think that that’s the right price for this but
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it’s not the right price for the for the kid that wants to take one to uh college or what not so that’s why I’m I’m kind
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of anxious to find out what what it is that can be done for those uh others
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that that want to get into electrification but can’t so if we can’t do that then let me shift gears and what
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do you think about the new I can say a little bit I just can’t tell you you know unit volume and dates because that
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has a mass that then that is a that is projecting the financials yeah um so we
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obviously are we are working on a lowcost electric vehicle that will made in very high volume um we’re and quite
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far advanced in that work the you know I review the the the production line plans
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for that every week um and I think the the the revolution in manufacturing
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that will be represented by that car uh will blow people’s minds and it’s not like any car
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production line that anyone’s ever seen is this going to have the um basically
Production system
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um unboxed system or would just be too much of a question
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asked the thing the thing that’s most interesting about this is is the production system it’s it’s a a level of
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production technology that is uh far in advance of any Automotive
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plant on Earth I can early wait now yeah it’s gonna be cool it’s going to be very yeah
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I think you know um and and I should point out the
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uh that that we will be making that the the first production line will be here in the gigafactory in Texas in in this
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in this facility I thought it was going to be in Mexico or something that’ll be the second
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place wow that’s way cool it would take too long to complete the factory in Mexico well this place here seems to be
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growing every time I come here it seems to get bigger um and we’re adding a
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significant extension on the south and um adding more buildings on on we have 2,000 acres so this is really just a
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small part of the property yeah I also I kept hearing phase one this is phase one
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so this is phase one I can’t imagine what all the other phases must be so yeah this building is uh it’s three
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times the size of the Pentagon yeah well the Pentagon I got lost in as well yeah it’s easy to do
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that but this this building is so unique in that everybody has ever since Albert Khan showed us hey let’s have a flat
Flat building
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building and Gobble up a whole bunch of property and then we don’t have to go up and down we actually have Flo on this
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building what’s that we do have floors this building yes yeah I know this has got plenty of floors and and what’s nice
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about it is I start with the light stuff and I move it down to the heavy stuff and then I drive it out the door this
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whoops that thing right over there the seat system that’s a that’s a great example of um of I mean people have
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talked about doing that nobody had the guts to do that and uh and by the way I
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don’t know I don’t know um if you know it but um my uh my office chair is a
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Model A model y seat that I put little rollers on it’s really comfortable wow I
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have a bad I have a real problem with my back and um and that’s the only thing I mean I don’t I don’t need to have a
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chiropractor I haven’t had gone to the chiropractor in over a year a year and a half I guess now because that seat I
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have no idea you know we’ve taken them apart in but I’m not a seat engineer that just seems to be perfect for uh for
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everybody that I know of that sits in the front seats absolutely loves them so but having those and popping them in and
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I mean all the all the Glorious stuff you did with the um with how uh manufacturing should be done I I it
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drives me wild uh why other people haven’t done anything but again I it it
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I I don’t know it I hate to start drooling all over you but I think it’s
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just great leadership I um I really I really appreciate that so yeah I mean I
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push things very hard on engineering front um so um we would have been more
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adventurous uh actually with you know with the model 3 or model y but we we
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couldn’t take a chance on uh on being too radical because if those were bet
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the company cars so MH um you know with with the Cyber Tru it’s no longer a bet
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to company situation so we have the freedom to be adventurous
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here so let me ask a an adventurous question um okay so I made a lot of
The future of car industry
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noise about what I think the future is going to look like and one of the things that I’ve said is that probably uh the
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biggest car company in the planet will be byd and then I’m putting Tesla in on second simply because byd’s got such a
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head start um I’ve heard plenty of people you know criticizing that but who
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do you think is going to be the winners and losers in um in the car
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industry well I think it’s too ear to say for sure but um I mean the future is
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definitely electric so yeah companies that are not making a significant investment in electric electric vehicles
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are basically consigning themselves to the fate of the horse and buggy Market
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uh you know in the 1920s yeah you know there were companies that were doubled down on the on on horse
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carriages um and and actually you know so
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so you you don’t want to be the buggy whop manufacturer in the age of automobills yeah exactly right so um but
Sandy Munros gift
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there’re for me there’s two giants uh three Giants that um I think are going
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to come down real hard and um and one in particular but I I I just decided I
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don’t want to go down that path so what I want to do is is basically um
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basically just tell you that this has really been phenomenal I I’m really hoping that somehow I can make something
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happen for U us to well for me first off to drive something around and then
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secondly something that we can uh we can tear down in in the rest of the planet on and by the way I forgot I even have a
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gift for you so there you go so um the um oh you can open it up uh it’s got a
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little flap in the front here you go and there you are so
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um so anyways I gave one Bott cap opener yes yeah so um and you can glue it to
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the fridge too so there are bridge magnet yeah bot opener yeah thank you well you’re welcome I uh it’s not much
Thomas Jefferson quote
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but but I I I I really think that um um it’s the least I can do for all the
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stuff that you’ve done for Monroe I mean you put us on the map I had um you
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know it’s been a rough first half of this year this part of the Year seems to be going a whole lot better and um and I
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like I say I I want to be cognizant of your time and and consider it so um I’d
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like to thank you by the way I’ve got one other thing both of us are aliens were aliens okay both of us you came
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from Canada and before that South Africa I came from Canada and I found that that
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Americans have um kind of lost their way a little bit thinking about history and
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um there’s this guy Thomas Jefferson and um and Thomas Jefferson used to say um
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he used to say in matters of fashion go with flow in matters of principle stand like a
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rock I’m going to end this with shaking your hand thanking you thanking you for
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standing Like a Rock when you’re sitting on a stage and someone is trying to humiliate you I I told everybody I won’t
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go into this and I’m not going to get all you know emotional and everything but to me I’ve watched that one clip
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that people have been putting out to me and putting up
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against um forgotten their name Disney Land or whatever at the end of the day I
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will never take my grandchildren ever to that place ever and I you have to you have to wonder what would Walt Disney
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think of the company that is his namesake today I’m telling you what I mean I think Walt Disney’s turning in
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his grave faster than the drill bit I I can well I’m telling you what I I
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believe that I believe that um uh it won’t it won’t take too much longer before somebody goes hey you know what
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this is we we we aren’t we we we shouldn’t be having this shovel down
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our throat any longer and then there’ll be a big change but it isn’t going to happen isn’t going to happen next week
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that’s for sure and that’s unfortunate but I love the first step for me right now um I think that people have gone
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completely stupid I think that um that I’m not supposed to talk about this
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either but I think that people have uh have fallen into that same trap as What U Nazi Germany had where Mass stot took
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over and um and created a real giant mess and and it took a World War toh to
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quell that those incredibly bad thinking and and stuff like that so I’m hoping
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that it won’t take a third world war to make something like that change the way we’re thinking and whatnot but I I do
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believe that uh somebody somebody has to start looking at what’s going on in the
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education system because listening to people talk just I
The Land of Opportunity
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have to get up and walk away it’s very difficult for me to hire people because if I hear that kind of stuff um you know
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we both chose this country it wasn’t just that we got born here right we came here because this was this was the land
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of opportunity yes and Ander based a country where where you know you you you
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make progress based on on your skill and and well your ability to work and that’s how how yeah if you’re able to do you
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know very useful things then you get ahead um and uh feel like we’re we’re
41:35
starting to lose that it’s a bigc I’m starting I’d say that um we’re getting real close to a watershed and when that
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happens it’s very very difficult uh to make uh to make the water go uphill so
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I’m I’m very very very nervous I uh I don’t know why or how this has happened
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uh that’s not my area of EXP expertise but I do know what I see I want to try to figure that out like I think some of
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these things started probably earlier than people realize um I’m thinking I
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think when they started with the um politically correct philosophy and
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whatnot right I think that uh that tipping that was starting that that’s kind of like where it started and then
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and now it’s gotten so ridiculous and it even funny and um I don’t know how that’s going to change like it’s like
42:27
it’s really just another way of saying like you have to lie to fit in exactly and then how and then more and more you have to lie to fit in more and more lie
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to fit in and eventually that that that sort of passive cards of Lies will
42:40
collapse it always does and it always has but when it collapses who gets
42:47
crushed um and and is there any recovery from something like that how how uh how
42:54
how damn dumb can people be well we’ve watched it happen in the past people who
42:59
read history have watched the Roman Empire collapse the Greeks the Egyptians
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I mean show me a show me a nation show me a civilization I should say and I’ll show you hey that collapsed and why did
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it collapse well because the people went stupid or they spent more time watching
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uh watching What’s going at the circus as opposed to watching what was happening in their backyard I mean yes I
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very few Empires collapsed uh simply due to external uh forces uh
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they first defeated themselves from within exactly yeah the only way to lose in the United States will be if we if we
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tear it down from the inside and it and it seems to me anyway that there’s a lot of that stuff going on right now so
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yes I think I think I suspect things will will come to AE in the not to distant future I hope you’re well I hope
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you’re right it moves in the right direction but next year is g to be something else yeah now that’s that’s
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the truth too yeah so anyway I um I know your son needs to get to bed and um and
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I Pete quite Frank we were at that last night and I’m uh fading fast I I had
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about six cups of coffee wor all right it was a lot of fun but anyways thank you so much thank you Elan I really
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appreciate it you’re most welcome yeah and uh thanks very much everybody for watching um and Elon for uh for giving
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up his time and and really I don’t know what time it is but if you’re got to go back to work for another two hours I’d
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say um you qualify as um as a candidate if you ever need a job you can come to
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